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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.revedreams.com/craft-adjacent/copyright-licenses/#comment-51590&quot;&gt;melydia&lt;/a&gt;.

It is really interesting, if frustrating, since copyright law doesn&#039;t (and couldn&#039;t) cover all possible specific cases explicitly.

There is also a question of theory versus practice - people *can* sell collages, but that doesn&#039;t necessarily imply they *may*. The copyright holder would have to take action to stop it, though, and I would expect in the case of collage most wouldn&#039;t bother. The sources I&#039;ve read treat collage as a sort of gray area. Only the copyright holder can produce &quot;derivative works&quot; (so I am protected from someone taking my pattern, producing a slight modification of it, and selling it as their own), and it&#039;s possible a collage would count as a derivative work - depends on the nature of the collage, I guess.

Bill&#039;s software situation sounds directly analogous to the fabric one - if you make something you can sell it, but you can&#039;t sell the design itself with which you made the thing. But software can require license agreements so it can do whatever it wants in terms of licensing.

I think the answer to your last question is &quot;yes, if and only if you can defend that the painting is satire or commentary&quot; (see: Andy Warhol). Otherwise no, it&#039;s copyright infringement. If you go here: http://www.law.harvard.edu/faculty/martin/art_law/image_rights.htm and scroll down to the first image in the text, the paragraph afterward describes a case of this nature. This would protect, say, Ben&#039;s collages, though, which are usually interpreted as commentary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.revedreams.com/craft-adjacent/copyright-licenses/#comment-51590">melydia</a>.</p>
<p>It is really interesting, if frustrating, since copyright law doesn&#8217;t (and couldn&#8217;t) cover all possible specific cases explicitly.</p>
<p>There is also a question of theory versus practice &#8211; people *can* sell collages, but that doesn&#8217;t necessarily imply they *may*. The copyright holder would have to take action to stop it, though, and I would expect in the case of collage most wouldn&#8217;t bother. The sources I&#8217;ve read treat collage as a sort of gray area. Only the copyright holder can produce &#8220;derivative works&#8221; (so I am protected from someone taking my pattern, producing a slight modification of it, and selling it as their own), and it&#8217;s possible a collage would count as a derivative work &#8211; depends on the nature of the collage, I guess.</p>
<p>Bill&#8217;s software situation sounds directly analogous to the fabric one &#8211; if you make something you can sell it, but you can&#8217;t sell the design itself with which you made the thing. But software can require license agreements so it can do whatever it wants in terms of licensing.</p>
<p>I think the answer to your last question is &#8220;yes, if and only if you can defend that the painting is satire or commentary&#8221; (see: Andy Warhol). Otherwise no, it&#8217;s copyright infringement. If you go here: <a href="http://www.law.harvard.edu/faculty/martin/art_law/image_rights.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.law.harvard.edu/faculty/martin/art_law/image_rights.htm</a> and scroll down to the first image in the text, the paragraph afterward describes a case of this nature. This would protect, say, Ben&#8217;s collages, though, which are usually interpreted as commentary.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve never thought about that before, the legality of selling something made from a copyrighted pattern, or with fabric printed with a copyrighted design.  It&#039;s an interesting question. 

People can sell collages using (presumably) copyrighted imagery, but perhaps since the pictures are used in pieces rather than as a whole it doesn&#039;t count.  I know with Bill&#039;s 3d art he can&#039;t resell the original models/backgrounds he uses but he holds the copyright to any artwork he makes with them - that&#039;s spelled out when you download the model.

I wonder how meta you can get with this.  Suppose I paint a picture of a can of Pepsi, the design of which is copyrighted (or trademarked or whatever).  Can I sell that painting?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never thought about that before, the legality of selling something made from a copyrighted pattern, or with fabric printed with a copyrighted design.  It&#8217;s an interesting question. </p>
<p>People can sell collages using (presumably) copyrighted imagery, but perhaps since the pictures are used in pieces rather than as a whole it doesn&#8217;t count.  I know with Bill&#8217;s 3d art he can&#8217;t resell the original models/backgrounds he uses but he holds the copyright to any artwork he makes with them &#8211; that&#8217;s spelled out when you download the model.</p>
<p>I wonder how meta you can get with this.  Suppose I paint a picture of a can of Pepsi, the design of which is copyrighted (or trademarked or whatever).  Can I sell that painting?</p>
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